Several people have shown me so called "evidence" of a conspiracy in which the CFR is attempting to create an NAU. Let me just make one thing clear, I dont trust the CFR any more than the next guy but permit me to be the voice of reason here.
How does it make sense to arrest a man for shoplifting before he tries to leave the store? Neither does it make sense to accuse an organization who has said things that suggest their desire to create a NAU simply because they have made the suggestion. CFR is most certainly worth keeping a very close eye on but dont blow the whistle before a foul. After all arent most of you conspiracy nuts opposed to "Pre-emptive action".
Let me make another thing clear. I am a skeptic and as such its in my nature to only trust my own observations and not simply buy in to what people have told me. I have recieved all kinds of "circumstantial evidence" about CFR and NAU but please stop sending me this cause you are only preaching to the choir here. I already dont like CFR so the idea that they would do something like attempt to form an NAU is not inconcievable to me. Still with all the claims I have still not seen a "smoking gun" something that shows that CFR has used the influence of its members to pass legislation that puts us closer to an NAU. You cannot indict someone for ideas only for actions.
Speaking of CFR members I dont subscribe to this belief that all CFR members are in on it and that all of them are simply puppets who unquestionably do the CFR's bidding. Just look at the membership list. Angelina Jolie, George Soros, Hillary Clinton, Newt Gingrich... Just how is a vast conspiracy like the one many NAU nuts are proposing going to be kept secret with so many people from so many areas of society being in on it? Logic would tell us that it cant so we must conclude that not all members of the CFR are in on the suspected NAU conspiracy.
Likewise I dont buy that all the CFR members are puppets either. Hillary Clinton is a socialist who believes she is destined to be President, she will do anything to become President. Such a person is not easily controlled and neither is a man as brilliantly sly as her husband. On a side note I dont like Bill Clinton as a President or as a human being but I will say this of him, a better politician there is none. Bill Clinton somehow had the ability to look a man in the face, smile, and tell him the most insane lie and that man would be inclined to believe him. No other Politician is capable of being that good of a liar, especially not Hillary Clinton who lacks both the political skill and charisma of her husband. (Again I dont like a thing about either of them).
On the same argument how on Earth does the CFR expect to get people from the far right and the far left to agree on anything? Now days politics is so childish that whatever one side says the other side says the opposite. Politicians can be trusted to do one thing, and that is look out for their own interests. If the interests of the CFR were to compromise their own interests I believe that most of todays rats...I mean politicians would betray CFR in a heart beat.
Here is what I advocate. Keep a close watch on CFR, keep a record of their actions, so if they do something decisive (if they ever hope to achieve an NAU they must at some point do something decisive) you can point to a pattern. Simply running out and making outrageous claims based on superstition and circumstantial "evidence" destroys credibility and thus like the boy who cried wolf, would-be whistle blowers will simply be dismissed in the future as conspiracy nuts if they attempt to alert the public to a real threat. Sure you can say "I told you so" but that and $2.70 will by you a gallon of gas in my hometown. So watch and be alert but dont cry wolf until the wolf comes out of the forest.
Also if you want to look at the CFR membership I would advise looking at what each member has done. As I stated earlier not all of them can logically be "in on it". Some of the stances of CFR members contradict the ideals of an NAU. Look for logical patterns in which a member consistently seems to support the ideals of NAU. Keep your personal political bias at home if possible.
When people show me patterns and conclusive evidence that satisfy my natural skepticism then I will do what I can to help you. But until that day I shall continue to refer to NAU as what it currently is; a conspiracy theory.
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Only in your childish mind have you debunked anything. Here's my advice: grow up and get a few more years of education and then we'll talk. In the meantime:
http://canada.usembassy.gov/content/can_usa/northamericancommunity_TF_final.pdf
www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=7454
www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16189
www.augustreview.com
http://americas.irc-online.org/am/386
http://www.american.edu/ia//cnas/PastorTrilateral.pdf
The CFR shadow government is a major threat to American sovereignty.
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was established in 1921. It has over four thousand members nationwide and is the unseen foreign policy making body of the US. It’s official magazine is a bimonthly book called Foreign Affairs which is a general forecast of US future foreign policy.
Colonel Edward M. House, who was a close advisor of then-President Woodrow Wilson, was very influential in the establishment of the CFR.
In 1919, Colonel House set up a meeting between influential Americans and Brits and they established the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) in England and the Institute of International Affairs in the U.S.
In 1921, Colonel House helped reorganize the Institute of International Affairs into the Council on Foreign Relations.
Ever since, the CFR shadow government has been working steadily to undermine all that the United States Constitition gave to the American people.
As a matter of fact, Colonel House gave us a glimpse into the attitude the CFR shadow government has toward the Constitution when he said,
“America is the most undemocratic of democratic countries… Our Constitution and our laws have served us well for the first hundred years of our existence, but under the conditions of today they are not only obsolete, but even grotesque.”
This quote comes from Colonel House’s 1912 book, “Philip Dru: Administrator: A Story of Tomorrow”. In the same book, his main character states that only through dictatorship could “socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx” be set up in America.
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton
CFR Quotes
"Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
CFR Quotes
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." --- (Traitor) Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)
"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." --- Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of Foreign Affairs.
"The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government." --- Harpers, July l958
The Federal Reserve "created" money is not used only for financial matters; this money is also used to maintain the bankers' control of every aspect of political, economic and social life. It is used to bankroll the enormous expenditures of political candidates, the swollen budgets of universities, the huge outlays required to start newspapers or magazines, and a vast array of foundations, "think-tanks" and other instruments of mind control.
Psychological Warfare. Few Americans know that almost every development in psychology in the United States in the past sixty-five years has been directed by the Bureau of Psychological Warfare of the British Army. A short time ago, the present writer learned a new name, The Tavistock Institute of London, also known as the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations. "Human relations" covers every aspect of human behavior, and it is the modest goal of the Tavistock Institute to obtain and exercise control over every aspect of human behavior of American citizens. --- Harpers Magazine, Feb. 1980
Have you seen the quote from David Rockefeller's biography? He admits to being in a globalist cabal and at http://cfr.org the mission statement by the president is to erase national boundaries in favor for a 1 world government. I can totally understand how its hard to fathom because on the surface and what we are supposed to think is that America is the land of the free. While at first it started that way we have been hijacked by power hungry greedy manipulators. Well heres the exact quote "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents ... to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
- David Rockefeller, "Memoirs" autobiography (2002, Random House publishers), page 405
I must admit that I was pissed at you when i seen your question during the debate but reading yer profile we like the same junk and you seem like a cool kid. And my only intent is to let you know whats goin on. 5 years ago i wouldn't have thought that the government was anywhere near corrupt as it actually is. The cfr
owns in one way or another all major media in the U.S. If yer mind is open I have a few links you should check out. You see the internet is not regulated (yet) so freedom of speech is still allowed I found this very informative http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=endgame&total=2579&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=17
even if you dont allow my post up i hope you at least give it some serious thought and research. Another good video on video google is http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6702050570069604257&q=history+of+9%2F11&total=1424&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Everything in that video is FACT and you can check in wikipedia i encourage it actually. May the truth set you free man we all gotta wake up time is running out. Take care God bless.
-Rex rex.cassidy@gmail.com
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